Ok before, I start my topic - I would like to wish my love a very "Happy Birthday"!
Ok for the past few weeks, I have written some spiritual posts, some posts on music and now you could have easily guessed that I would come out with my posts on my loves and crushes :). Yes I am back to what I am good at! But before I start - some topics may be B-grade - so the women readers especially Parvati whom I respect so much - please excuse and pardon me! I am just trying to be very frank here! So pardon me if I have hurt your sentiments!
"Arjuna, you are so obsessed with skin!" - these were some wise, angry words from a friend who is a girl! How true! I still wonder why I am so obsessed with skin! My obsession and passion for beauty started from the age of 6. Some of my cousin sisters told me that at that age I used to sit on the wall in my house in Jaffna and look at all the school and college girls that passby! I still remember when I was 7, I asked my father "appa, why am I falling in love with all these girls who come to my house?"! So my passion for pretty women started from a very young age and as time passed by - my passion has turned into an obsession! While in college, I used to describe the beauty of women in such a passionate manner - my room was virtually filled with guys coming and listening to my passionate discourse!! For eg - I used to describe how a girl's hip should be - "If you roll a small ball (goli) over a girl's hip or iduppu - it should roll back and forth like a pendulum !"
From the day I saw Prashanth in "Hello" dancing for this song - I used to tell my mother that my ambition is to dance with 5 girls on the left and 5 girls on the right on top of Valluvar Kottam for this song! And even if I dont get 10 girls - I will atleast hire some and dance! My mother used to put her hand on her head :)) - Infact the day before I was born, my mother dreamt a kutti Hanuman was sleeping on a craddle! I still wonder how I can be a reincarnation of Lord Hanuman :P! Maybe its because I am bit naughty! lol
So why am I like this? Maybe its just my imaginations are so wild! My mother thinks I am bit artistic in my thoughts - and that is how I talk to people. I describe everything very passionately! I love anything that is beautiful. I love beautiful women, beautiful music, beautiful houses, beautiful animals, beautiful scenaries and even handsome men! I just simply adore beauty to its fullest!
Yesterday my dearest friend Atma was telling me that I would show my love to a girl to the fullest provided I dont see someone else. That was very true :) Since my mind just fluctuates whenever I see someone more beautiful and immediately fall in love with that one too!
Maybe its my Jathakam or astrological chart that is the culprit! My astrologers say since my Sukran or Venus is very strong - my love life would be always strong and advised me to stay away from women! Maybe that is one reason why I wanted to become a Saint:P - but I am quite sure its my vasanas from my previous birth that is tormenting me now!
[Note : There are so many negative things/sorrow/death/disease happening around me - so that is why I wanted to write something that could make others smile - so that I can be happy - I respect women so much and they are not an object of desire for me! I cannot live without them! Its just the beauty that adores me!]
posted by Gnana Kirukan @ 1:30 AM
45 Comments:
mmm skinla aarambichu respect women varakku evlo unmaiyo evlo poiyooo.. hmm anyway its good !!!
I also have some notions which are beautiful etc (but ungala maari ella beauty ellam admire pannadhu illa :))and my freinds who are girls would be like ' how can u think like this'
I seriously think beauty in girls is just the skin texture and healthyness of hair !!!
Arjuna no wonder you like 'Krishna'
Arjuna- Bravo ! you are one of a kind !! :))
Its quite natural for many people to feel this way, but nobody dares to admit it, for fear of their "image" getting tarnished... sheer hypocrisy [I think I've given enough material for your next post :)]
P.S: Blogs are no longer blocked :)
But, I firmly believe that beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder...
Hi Arjuna, I have been a silent reader of your blog for a while. I think you have a very interesting blog..Pretty honest about what you write. The topics you cover range from being outright funny to being immensely spiritual. Guess it is just a reflection of your personality! Anyways, great job..keep it going.
Ganpy.
(http://ganpyhumdrum.blogspot.com)
Dai Arjuna yellam sollitu last le smart move han. After talking with you so much, i know that whatever u said is true to the T - u admire them, u adore them, u love them, u respect them[to the extent that many men would love to term u a feminist] and finally u can't live without them.
And i believe, even though i said yesterday that "until u see someone else" part, that if u are married to a girl, u will be truthful to her and never see any other girl - unfortunately due to the good nature your mom has given to you ;)
One more thing - unnokku kalynam than valli - don't try falling in love - too many beauties around - u can't keep control over your eyes, heart and head ;)
And Parvati, kudos to you, you seem to give a positive spin to anything we say - I could never have thought in that way.
And Viji, compeletly agree with you, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Dude Arjuna even if you shut yourself in the deepest of the darkest cave
as long as you havent controlled your mind you are in trouble
you might chant the whole day,wear the brigh color orange robe, grow a long beard and all that.
so renunciation is in the mind not in the external thing.
Its like 'Samudhrathil alai oiyundha apparam kulikalamnnu' madiri irukku
haha... good one, Arjuna.. Your previous posts were too long and hi-fi for me to read and comment.. (chumma)..
Asin birthday-yai eppadi kondadineenga?
Parvati - thanks for ur as usual wonderful comments :)
Me marrying? I dont think I could not now - too many things to do! Maybe in 2 years time :)
Priya - Naan epothume unmayai thaan pesuven :)
ganesh - FYI - in my house they call me Krishna :P
Viji - that is great news! Ur company wuld have known by now - that no one can stop Viji from 'not' working :P - lol
Yeah - u have given some new topics as usual :))..its been a long time since I got some 100 comments :P..
Eyes of the beholder? I have nolla kannu :( - lol
Ganpy - thanks a lot dude for ur support :) - I shall definitely visit ur blog :)
Atma - nanmba - romba pugalathey pa! :))
Sure dude - wuld marry after u did :)
Ganesh - dude - good views there :)
raju -
"Your previous posts were too long "
My posts - too long???? Dude u must check Anand's post to see the meaning of too long :))
Asin's birthday celebrations? - that is my next post ! :)
Parvati -
"Beauty is His footprint showing us where He has passed."
Since it is the touch of God that makes anything beautiful, it is hardly surprising that you, who want to live and are doing serious sadhana to live the One Ishwara, are so very obsessed with that aspect of Him in all that is there on Earth."
I dont know from where u get all these wonderful sentences :) - too good :)
Yappa Arjuna,
full flow la irukka pola!! Nadathu, nadathu raasaaaa!!
Dear Friend Arjuna
Though u say in the end that u don't view women as objects of desire , the fact is that deep inside your mind there are tsunamis of desires as u have let some of 'em out in the post (thru vasanas). You say that your passion had turned into an obsession yet you say you have no desire.
It is VERY true that there are beautiful women, beautiful clouds, music etc and at the same time but they are all transient (can't avoid this cliche). The outer beauty is subject to continuous cycle of formation and deformation. What alone remains continuously is the beautiful Aatman and the even more beautiful paramaathman behind that aatman. Without the aatman , can u imagine such beautiful things. All beautiful damsels turn into dead matter rottening to form skeletons.This is a simple universal observation. This is kind of analogous to opting to eat bananas when there is actually a ripe and juicy mango (or any fruit u like better) for the take.
If your mind can view a woman or any beautiful object as the creation of god or god himself , then there is no scope for cravings and desires. You just adore him/he because it is the gorgeous HE/SHE. If that is not the case, refrain from commenting/thinking or enjoying the beauty cause the basic nature of our minds is to fall for the external beauty which can take the greatest of souls down to dooms.
My friend, if u have such great respect for women, i urge you to write posts on great women like Mother Teresa and Smt MSS amma instead of writing on Asins and all other glamorous women. Every average teenager should have such kind of obsessions ,not the knower of the greatness and the intrinsic beauty of Sriman Narayana( or shiva:)
I also strongly urge you to pray god to give you the vairagya to set you free from external obsession. If you don't take efforts now, u will definitely take that in a near/distant future. Y can't that be now? it is always better to start right away... u never know when u'll get the fruits. anyways, u cant expect any fruit..just pray him.....Posts like this from you doesnt actually reflect the actual spiritual knowledge that uve got. U can have desires but by putting them on the blog , arent u actually strenghtening those vasanas? I feel that it's high time for you to think deeply on this.
I have said all this despite being aware that not everyone can do the job of changing others but only because it is my duty as your friend to express what i think is correct.
Pardon me if my words were a bit arrogant. If i had used them , they are because of my not so great english vocab.
Sriman narayanaarpanam
Wow Krishna - Parvathi gave a positive spin and u a negative one.
Even if not seen from a religious angle - Beauty is supposed to be skin deep - but unfortunately many of us are stuck with the outward physical beauty - many say big words but still none follow - i have not seen anyone yet who has differed from the rule.
A simple question - actually it should be more of blog post - why are we born with all these different kind of senses - all these so called weakness - we are attracted to opposite sex - may be its because of love or lust ? Is it God given which he wants us to master and come out of it or is there a devil as in Christianity who coerces us to the Dark side ? If it is God given then why do all this ?
Pardon my ignorance - the only way to learn is to ask.
Dear Arjuna,
I am with u totally on this buddy :-)
I have gone through similar feelings, similat emotions and I connect with you at every level, Infact I see that perfect synch between us in appreicating lot of things in this world. Like I said previously, I feel u are writing through me...
Beauty is absolutely there to be appreicated, adored and enthralled, Beauty is of many kinds, the way we love a beautiful flower, a beautiful sunset, a beautiful mountain, beautiful garden, a beautiful person. Infact I too fall in love with handsome guys :-).But see, it is all about Nature, Infact Women is nothing but Nature. Women is a representation of nature, not Man.
If a person cannot appreicate every aspect of women, he/she is defying the laws of nature.
There are 2 aspects to this world, Evolutionary and Spiritual. Both have to live together, or else there is no progression.
Being part of the Nature (that included woman, flaur and fauna)and Evolutionary process, it does not hurt to fall in love, enjoy the beauty of nature. At the same time that indulgence in beauty of nature will take you to the core parts of nature that are spiritual, for example Silence, darkness, non-judgemental attitude, Acceptance.
Both evolutionary and spirirual sides walk hand in hand withot which there is no progress to the mankind. You cannot be a snyasi and sit in an ashram and see this is the end of the world, nor u cannot be a Bhogi and running around women, saying that they are the end of the world. One thing leads to the other.
Infact I have an interesting experience I wuld like to share. Whenever I go to Tirupathi, the abode of Lord Venkateswara and the most divine place, Aalong with the Spiritual side, I feel my evolutionary side comes out. I feel very romantic, and my body, mind and soul goes into a blissful state. Infact I enjoy the divine bliss in the hills and at the same time I want to be with a beautiful woman next to me enjoying the same divine bliss. I feel complete with a woman. Because we evolve from woman, We are created in woman, we are nurtured by woman, we live with woman, and it is no harm in appreciating the woman in its various forms.
In know many people might think that we are womenisers, but the truth is that we are the kind of people who see beauty in woman and the God. That is the right balance that is needed. I connect to so well becasue I see that balance in you :-)
Kaaryesu dhaasi, bhojyesu maatha, sayanesu rambha, karanesu manthri.....
with best wishes,
Suman
Viji - that is great news! Ur company wuld have known by now - that no one can stop Viji from 'not' working :P - lol
Arjuna- Yeah, I know you got confused with the usage and jumbled everything. [or,was it a typo? if it is, then it's the weirdest typo ever :)]
No... don't apologize. Just make this small change... remove the 'not'. :)) LOL
Arjuna,
Continuation of thought...
Beauty is a package of everything that comes with evolution and spiritual. Lets say a person has fair skin and doe not have that internal joy and bliss, the beauty does not show up. Mnay times when we are saying a person is beautiful, it is the inner joy, beauty and happiness showing up together with the Nature given fair color or good features.
I take my own example. I am considered pretty handsome guy :-)
But I myself do not like myself sometimes when I am sad, when I am frustrated, when I not connecting with my inner self. But there are days when I cannot stop falling in love with myself. I myself wonder how come God created me so handsome:-) Those are the days when I am in spiritual connection with my inner self, contended, happy within and living moment to moment, not disturbed by the past or the future. Just that moment I am oure conscious. In that state my skin color glows, the face takes a nice Oval shape and my eyes are sparkling, my lips Red, wy walk and gait on par with an Emperor.
I have noticed that with my ex wife and girl friends too. I used to say why don't you girls just relax and be cool, and all the beauty will show up. Infact that is when the beauty of inner and outer come together.
So anytime you are attracted to a person and falling in love, it is not just the outer skin color that u are attracted to, it is apackage of positive energy that comes from within that glorifies the outer.
Infact if you are falling in love with many people, it means that you are able to meet that positive and divine bliss in every person who is in the state of bliss. But unfortunately once u r married, the woman next to you very rarely allow you to appreciate the beauty in other women, again that jealousy is part of nature too. Not balming woman here, it is natural. But the best way to appreciate every beauty in this nature is to remain as "The Most Eligible Bachelor" and enjoy every moment and everything that moment.
with best wishes,
Suman
Dear aatma
--"why are we born with all these different kind of senses?--"
I think,
I guess ONLY the creator of life can answer this question satisfactorily. Lot many people may say different things acc to what they think as correct acc to their mind condition. If your mind has similar kind of thougts , u would most likely accept his views else you would simply ignore them . But later it might turn out to be like both u and he have actually misundersood things.
Take this for analogy. your friend tells you that his friend has done something like this or that and if you ask him why he has done that? he would obviously ask you to ask his friend directly. He might perhaps guess , but you wont be perfectly content no matter what his guess is.Similarly, U might ask one thousand men , seek satsangh with great people, read a great lot to clarify your doubts, but still the doubts will remain.
Since those question will always remain, it is futile to run in search for the answers. Have the hope that the answer will come someday. Till that day, it's always better to pray and surrender at his lotus feet to keep you in his/her association.
There is a popular saying in tamil that goes like "nadhi moolam ,rishi moolam ketkakoodadhu" there is and should be a reason behind this.
friend, To be in association of the great paramaathma , you don't have to think twice. If you simply want that , every other issue will become trivial.You would start viewing the HE in everything.
hope if i was clear enough in answering your question. If not, it is simply because the my lack of understanding and expresiveness. Kindly bear with that
janaki kaanthapadha samarpanam
Krishna,
I have something to say about your comments.
If everyone goes into Vairagya, there is no evolution Sir. If Amoeba decide to be in Viragya and Gorrillas decided to be in Vairagya, then we all would not have been here.
At the same time, I feel that there is a Universal Energy controlling certain things in this universe, for a person living in India the universal energy is Narayana/Shiv/Brahma, for a person sitting in middle east it is Allah, for a person sitting in north american continent God is Jesus. These are only names we have given to the Mysitcal energy that operates us. None of these Gods have asked us to take Vairagya. None of them said ignore material pleasure including woman.
Infact our Sri Krishna bhagawan said, do whatever , do it ith detachment. It is the attachment that is the cause of Kama, krodha, lobha, moha , madha , maathsaryas.
We cannot blam the materials outisde the world, that they all perish and why love something that perishes. My apparoach would be Love all, but be detached. Flow with the moment, The problem is with human brain, it wants to live 99.99995 in past or future. The moment u r in past of future, you are attached to something.
Any religion, God teaches only one thing, Love all, but do not get attached, beacuse attachment causes kama, krodha, lobha, moha, madha, maaschryas.
Unconditional detached Love is the way to go. This can be experienced only when we fal in love and lose the love. It is like when u tell a kid not to touch something that is Hot. How would a Kid ever know what is Hot. So let him touch, feel it , experience it and learn from it. Simple.
Infact Our Krishna Bhagawan had himself said, Unless u get dirty, how can u know u r clean. The only ctach is when u r getting dirty, understand that u r getting dirty, live in the moment of dirt and slowly clear the dirt and the bliss in the cleanliness after is what I call DIWINE:-)
That is the problem with any relationship in this world, not just women. mother father brother, friend, sister, wife, children, emoloyer...We do not understand what is detached unconditional love. That is where all the pain of the world is.
The essense of life is we are all imperfect humans. We are all born with one of those shadgunas, but as we progress how we master those is the essence of life. Gold is not available as a pure metal in the earth, only when the dirt it accumulated is cleaned and put through the hot furnaces, you end up seeing Gold. Some reach the bliss soon, some take more time. None of us are perfect.
Parvati, This is one is Good:
"If God is the goal then everything makes sense, has a meaning, hidden or obvious..."
God is silence, God is Love, God is Beauty, God is Bliss, God is impeccable Nature, God is Sun, Moon, STars, God is the Moment, That Moment of bliss is yours and your God.
with best wishes
Suman
honest self review.... that's the human tendency to adore beauty. so, nothing wrong about it.. until it crosses the 'so-called' limit..
TJ - ponga sir! Vekama iruku :)) - Yow neenga suma "jolly-a" US-la unga "friends" pakathula irunthutu enna verupethringala :))
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Dear Sumon - thanks a lot for ur inspirational words :)
"I feel very romantic, and my body, mind and soul goes into a blissful state. Infact I enjoy the divine bliss in the hills and at the same time I want to be with a beautiful woman next to me enjoying the same divine bliss. I feel complete with a woman."
This clearly tells me how similar ur to me :) - Wow - those words so poetic and romantic!
"I myself wonder how come God created me so handsome:-)..In that state my skin color glows, the face takes a nice Oval shape and my eyes are sparkling, my lips Red, wy walk and gait on par with an Emperor.
"
Sumon - that was awesome :)) - too good :)
From ur words - I can see the passion in u for women and their beauty - and as u said it just reflects my personality too :) - Great to meet u Sumon :)
"But the best way to appreciate every beauty in this nature is to remain as "The Most Eligible Bachelor" and enjoy every moment and everything that moment."
This is a tricky one - Lets ask Aatma's views on it :)
Ram - thanks boss :)
Parvati - thanks a lot for ur kind and inspirational words :)..My only aim in this life is not to be born again! There is nothing else! The only problem I am facing is my lack of Vairagya! My lack of mind control! But I am quite sure - I wuld attain my goal in this birth! Because as u said I have my Great Guru by my side! I am quite sure when the time comes - He will come and save me as He did for St Arunagirinathar! He is there for me and He would do it for me and He must do it for me :)..
Arjuna,
Nature of mind is, anything u try to control, it will fight, that is the fundamental nature of human brain.
The solUtion is :
There are 2 solutions:
For spiritually aware:
"Be Aware" of it. Like the quote on ur front page says, "watch and observe." slow down, It is very hard, It will take all ur energy and It is a very difficult process. But awarenss is the key.
For spiritually not aware:
Another thing way is "Go do it". Finish it off and your curiousity is over. The mind knows what is what, Like when parents say a kid, don't touch the hot cup of tea, kid still wants to try it., Same behaviour here. Our minds wants to try the unknown, Natural Law, infact basis for all our scientific discoveries, without that curiousity to test the waters, we would not have been where we are in the world of science and tech.
Curiosity is the nature, some have more curiosity and some less., SOme have more curiousity towards certain things, and for some some thing else, for some Money, for some, Moham, for some kaamam, Like I said we are all born with some element of these Gunas and we are oriinally slaves to those gunas, they are part of our genetic system, they are embedded in DNA, but as human and spiritual species, we need to mutate from the original slave to the Master. That is what I call Cosmic Purification. These gunas cane be from parents, forefathers our own previous births (if u believe in rebirth)... and so on..
Accept your Lust. Infact the moment u accept, you will start smiling at urself. It is a state of bliss what I call, It is s state of complete awareness. Awareness is Bliss.
Who does not have Lust, who does not have Lobha, moha, madha...
Turmoil is for people who do not accept. Because in that moment ur fighting thinking that it is wrong.
Education is what is essential for all these. Unfortunately we are not given that aspect of education.
No Fight Paartha :-) Observe. Greatest discoveries in the mankind are from the people who are keen observers, spiritually and scientifically.
We are all slaves to these gunas. But slowly with age and time we master them., That is where a spiritual being arises. Instead of they controlling u, you start controlling them, You will have Sex when u need to and want to under all possible better conditions,
Awareness buddy, that is the key. Take time, nothing is gonna get fixed over night,
Our Life is like a training program, we keep getting trained, sometimes by bad instructors and some times good, we slowly shed what we do not like.
Hope I did not blabber too much :-)
with best wishes
SUman
ஆதி சக்தி தனையுடம்பில் அரனும் கோத்தான்;
அயன்வாணி தனைநாவில் அமர்த்திக் கொண்டான்;
சோதிமணி முகத்தினளைச் செல்வ மெல்லாம்
சுரந்தருளும் விழியாளைத் திருவை மார்பில்
மாதவனும் ஏந்தினான்;வானோர்க் கேனும்
மாதரின்பம் போற்பிறிதோர் இன்பம் உண்டோ?
காதல்செயும் மனைவியே சக்தி கண்டீர்
கடவுள்நிலை அவளாலே எய்த வேண்டும். - ¸¡¾Ä¢ý Ò¸ú, À¡Ã¾¢-«ÚÀò¾¡Ú. This is what helps me out when I go through what you speak here. Especially காதல்செயும் மனைவியே சக்தி கண்டீர்
கடவுள்நிலை அவளாலே எய்த வேண்டும். :)
Was Suprised to notice another Nanyaar?
nice blog you got here..
cheers,
NANYAAR?
Sumon - that was a great comment from u :)..Yes the only happy thing is I am observing my negative qualities - I am aware of it - I know it when I do something wrong..and as u said - it takes time to get rid of all these things - and I am hopefully waiting :) - thanks once again for ur wonderful comments..
Sriram - beautiful lyrics - is it urs?
Nanyaar - thanks dude :) - I know there is someone with this name :)
@Arjuna - Sheesh mine? Scarilege man...those are the Mahakavi's. It appears in his Barathi arupaththi ARu work. I had mentioned it in the comment, but somehow that has warbled into junk...
Arjuna,
we are not supposed to shut our eyes and not enjoy the beauty. We will not need sense organs if we are supposed to control them all the time..There is more to it.
Again there is a beauty while enjoying an artwork too..
for example : We perceive the beauty of things in different ways..depending on what kind of person we are..
A picture can be seen as a poem without words..
A photo is a silent poem.
You can feel the fresh breeze touching you actually..
Like that if you train your mind ..and if you really really artistic..real beautiful woman would touch your heart and should
you peace not get you high..
So ideally we should train our mind to move towards pure love
and not fake attraction..Enjoy aishwarya watching her on screen knowing well that beauty is skin deep..! It is only about training our mind how to enjoy nature...without getting obsessed with it..
sriram - ok :)
Anon - "A picture can be seen as a poem without words..
A photo is a silent poem.
You can feel the fresh breeze touching you actually..
Like that if you train your mind ..and if you really really artistic..real beautiful woman would touch your heart and should
you peace not get you high.."
Beautiful words :) - thanks a lot :)
Too much Arjuna! :) Too much! :)
Culprit is not your jathakam or planet arrangement! Culprit is somewhere closer! ;) Think about it!
Adi - :)) - who is the culprit then :P
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