Sunday, October 16, 2005

தாய்மை - ஒரு சிறிய கதை.

[Dedicating this story to my aunty - who died without tasting motherhood, and to all similar women living with pain in this cruel world and to reiterate the fact that I am always there for them as a son!]


இன்று:
இடம்: விஜயா மருத்துவமனை.

"ராம், sorry to say, உங்க மனைவி ரொம்ப serious-அ இருக்கிறாங்க! குழந்தையா, மனைவியா - நீங்க decide பண்ணிகுங்க!" என்றார் டாக்டர்.


அன்று:
அவள் பெயர் வசந்தி. திருமணம் ஆகி 7 வருடஙகள் ஆகின. அவளிடம் எல்லாம் இருந்தது, ஒன்றைத் தவிர. அது குழந்தை! அவள் ஒரு மலடி! ஆம், இது தான் சமுகம் அவளுக்கு கொடுத்த பட்டம்! தன் கணவனைத் தவிர, வேறு யாரும் அவளின் நிலமையை புரிந்து கொள்ளவில்லை. இத்தனை வருடங்களில் அவள் அடைந்த வேதனைகள் பல. குழந்தை இல்லை என்ற காரணத்தால் சமுதாயம் அவளை உதாசினபடுத்தியது. தன் கணவனின் தங்கை திருமணத்தில், அவள் மாமியார் அவளை மணமேடையில் நிற்க வேண்டாம் என்று கூறியது, தன் சொந்த சகோதரியின் வளைகாப்புக்கு அவளை வரவேண்டாம் என்று கூறியது என பல வகையால் சமுதாயம் அவளின் இதயத்தை கிழித்தது. ஏன் என்றால் அவள் ராசி இல்லாதவளாம்! இதற்கெல்லாம் அவளின் ஒரே பதில், கணவனுக்கு தெரியாமல் பல இரவுகளில் அவள் விடும் கண்ணீர்.

இறைவன் நல்லவன்! வசந்தி கருவுற்றாள்! இத்தனை வருடங்களாக அவளை அவமானபடுத்திய சமுதாயம் இப்பொது தன் தலையில் அவளைத் தூக்கி வைத்து ஆடியது! அவள் கருவுற்ற அந்த 9 மாதங்கள் அவளின் வாழ்வின் மிகவும் சந்தோஷமான தருணங்கள். தாய்மையின் ஒவ்வொரு வலியும் அவளுக்கு இன்பமாக இருந்தது.

இன்று:
இடம்: விஜயா மருத்துவமனை.

"டாக்டர், எனக்கு என் மனைவி தான் ரொம்ப முக்கியம்! எனக்கு என் குழந்தை வேண்டாம் டாக்டர்! Please எப்படியாவது அவளை காப்பாதிடுங்க டாக்டர்!" என்று வலியால் துடித்து கொண்டிருக்கும் வசந்தியை Operation theatre-க்கு கொண்டு சென்றவாரே கதறினான் ராம்.

"ராம், we will try our best. அதற்கு மேல் கடவுள் கையில் தான் இருக்கு! Please sit down ராம்" என்று கூறிக்கொண்டே Operation theater-குல் நுழைந்தார் டாகடர்.

"டாக்டர், எனக்கு என் குழந்தை தான் முக்கியம். குழந்தை இல்லாம நான் இந்த சமுதாயத்தால் தினம் தினம் சாவதற்கு பதிலாக, நான் ஒரே ஒரு முறை குழந்தை பெற்று, நானும் ஒரு தாய் என்ற பெருமிதத்தில் இறந்திடுவேன் டாக்டர். Please என் குழந்தையை எப்படியாவது காப்பாதிடுங்க டாக்டர்".
என்றாள் வசந்தி கண்ணீருடன். டாக்டர், வசந்தியின் கண்களை, ஒருமுறை பார்த்தார். அவளின் கண்ணீருக்கு விடை தெரியாதவாரே, அவள் கரங்களை பிடித்தபடி டாக்டர் உள்ளே செல்ல, Operation theatre கதவுகள் மூடின.

இறைவன் கொடியவன்!

64 Comments:

At October 15, 2005 11:52 PM, Blogger Anand Prabhu said...

very touching.... ithu karpaniayaa illa.. unmai sambavama?

Arjuna... i am anand.. me too a member of godessasin yahoo group... why no updates..recently..?

 
At October 16, 2005 6:44 AM, Anonymous Mathi said...

Please do not call this a story.... its beyond that...

Ungalin thiramayai parthu biramikkirean.....

Mathi

 
At October 16, 2005 7:16 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Anand - thanks a lot :) - yes its karpanai - but the andru part is true! It happened to my aunty and she died when she was 48! I was like her son :(!

No boss - I thought it was not proper for me to sit and post messages since I am too old now :)..27 vayasula I should do something proper work - so turned my attention towards blogging :)

 
At October 16, 2005 7:16 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Mathi - thanks a lot buddy :) - I am touched by ur words - Sriram was telling me about u - thanks a lot for being a silent reader - I really appreciate it :)

 
At October 16, 2005 7:46 AM, Blogger Priya said...

very moving story. even my aunt has no kids.. but she is kindaa opposite.. she is so dejected i guess that she will have a detached relationship with kids/relatives..
romba paavaamaa irukkum..

 
At October 16, 2005 8:32 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Priya - romba thanks :) - I guess ur aunty is more like me! Even I try to live a isolated life! Contrary to my blogger image of being a happy guy - I am also like her - since I become attached to ppl very soon - I cant bear it when they are not with me - so prefer being isolated ! :(

 
At October 16, 2005 1:25 PM, Blogger Jeevan said...

thhan nalla illainalum than kulanthai nall iruntha pothum, ituthan thai pasam.

 
At October 16, 2005 1:41 PM, Blogger Adaengappa !! said...

Arjuna..Very touching narration..
I've known few of my relatives that have adopted kids..and the life moves on..
few others distance themselves with their relatives 'coz they didnt have a heir.Its our society's attitude..it needs a change..

 
At October 16, 2005 5:04 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

jeevan - yes Mother is the Greatest creation on earth and I have personally experienced it :)

 
At October 16, 2005 5:04 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Adengappa - romba thanks :) - yes, I completely agree with u :)

 
At October 17, 2005 1:19 AM, Blogger Venky Krishnamoorthy said...

Very sentimental story, Arjuna

 
At October 17, 2005 3:58 AM, Blogger Ram.C said...

Arjuna.. you had narrated it very well .. in a touching manner. I had come across people with this problem.. some of them were happy lateron with kids after 10 years.. some don't have still. Life continues..

thanks for blogrllg me.

BTW.. I had a blogger's comment in one of my post of last week. It was similar to your blogname...

 
At October 17, 2005 4:50 AM, Blogger Viji said...

Very poignant story... the society’s attitude towards childless women is repulsive. I have heard poisonous words being lashed out at them, like "enna pavam pannalo... oru puzhu poochi kooda molaikka mattengardhu" :(
People are so inconsiderate that, they choose to be oblivious to the fact that being childless is an agonizingly cruel punishment in itself. The only consolation is: the spouse is supportive, in most cases.

 
At October 17, 2005 6:27 AM, Blogger Narayanan Venkitu said...

Arjuna,
One word - Mey silirthadhu...got goosebumps.!! Superb..!

Very powerfully written about a common occurence in our stupid society.!

This Maladi Nonsense I meant and the implications in the society. Its always the girl who gets the blame..Nonsense.!!

The ending was dramatic IMHO. You've left the readers to decide it.!! Though I wanted her to live...The society will kill her..!

I am reading this at 11.30 Sunday night..I am sure, I am going to think about this for a long long time tonight.!!

 
At October 17, 2005 6:43 AM, Blogger Parvati said...

I think the story speaks of a retrogressive ancient attitude in society. And somehow all the comments too reflect the same regressive sentiment. I mean, all of you seem to first of all accept axiomatically that 1. Children are the be-all and end-all of a woman's life 2. If a woman doesnt have children her purpose of existence is gone and she has to be pitied, sympathised.

There are women who choose not to have children and they are not dejected, nor depressed, and they have healthy attitudes and healthy varied interests and lead fulfilled lives. I am not speaking of women who want children but are unable to have them.

And when you live in a cosmopolitan city of the world, people accept you for what you are and get on with their lives. You are fine and they too are.

I know women who see that the world doesnt need any more increase in population, that the children dont need to be brought into a world which is as rotten as this, to a life of bombings, suffering, violence and pain, and this vicious cycle of the sansaara sagaram.
Besides these global reasons, personally too they think that their lives will be better spent on many other things (maybe on children who are already in this world with nobody to look after them), instead of mindlessly adding on more and more children to this world. And why do we want only our own children? Only because we are not broad minded or largehearted enough to look on orphans as our own; we need a superior blood, known family tree,and what is not our own flesh and blood will not evoke the same love and affection.

I think we should grow up to a mature attitude and not pity nor curse women with no children. It could well be their choice. And such women need not necessarily be hardened or inflexible women. Just normal like you and me.

Let's not make too much of having or not having children. It is just like getting married or not. Whole of India is so hung up on marriage, that they cannot think of life without it. But marriage or no marriage, having children or not, are not such big deals.

Maybe I am too westernised in my outlook despite being in India all my life.

Nevertheless, I think that we as Indians have too heavy an attitude toward children, husbands - for god's sake, they are just human beings. Lets treat them as such and not something miraculous or out of the world.

 
At October 17, 2005 7:00 AM, Blogger Parvati said...

I am truly sorry about your aunt. Nobody deserves to suffer in this world, for no fault of theirs.

 
At October 17, 2005 9:00 AM, Blogger awakeningcoma said...

realy touched my heart, mes vry less emotional ,but this one too much to resisit

 
At October 17, 2005 11:02 AM, Blogger Vikram H said...

WOW!! It touched me very deep inside!! Considering that such a thing happenes in our society, i felt very moved by the story!

 
At October 17, 2005 11:10 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

venky - thanks a lot :)

 
At October 17, 2005 11:11 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Ram - thanks a lot boss :) - yes I know there exists someone with similar to mine :)

 
At October 17, 2005 11:12 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Viji - romba thanks pa :)..

Yes, most of the time its women against the women, isnt it? I havent seen men lashing out at these women..Its mostly the mamiyars, naathanars etc..

 
At October 17, 2005 11:13 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Narayanan sir - I am very happy that u liked my story :) Thanks a lot :) - I am overwhelmed by ur reply :) thanks sir :)

 
At October 17, 2005 11:15 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Narayanan sir - yes in my aunty's case - my uncle's family wanted my uncle to remarry even without knowing with whom the fault was! But he didnt re-marry. Now he is also dead - he passed away just 2 weeks back!

 
At October 17, 2005 11:17 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Parvati - Very powerful views and comments :) - I appreciate it :)- thanks..

Infact I am never bothered about having kids! I guess I am the only one around who keep on telling that I dont want kids! My mother thinks I am wierd - but maybe its my way of trying to escape bondage!

I am very much with u - marriage and children are not important!

 
At October 17, 2005 11:18 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Awakening Coma - thanks buddy - I am pleased that u like my story :)

 
At October 17, 2005 11:18 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Vikram - thanks a lot for popping in and commenting :)

 
At October 17, 2005 1:42 PM, Blogger Ramya Nageswaran said...

Dear Arjuna, good effort to capture a painful situation in a crisp manner. If you don't mind me telling you, there are quite a lot of typos. That kind of distracts the reading experience {சாப்பாட்டுலே கல்லு மாதிரி :-)} perhaps you could correct them:

சமுதாயம், கருவுற்றாள், மனைவி, நுழைந்தார் etc

 
At October 17, 2005 2:16 PM, Blogger Subha said...

Arjuna,
Good story but rather sad. I am not sure if this situation of not allowing childless women in marriages etc...still exists?! I, personally, haven't seen instances of this in my family circle.
A general observation that's not a reflection on your post: I feel that things get dramatized, exaggerated when printed/published.
Again, that's just me. Perhaps all this still does go on.
But good attempt! :)

 
At October 17, 2005 2:44 PM, Blogger Saravana Kumar said...

Hmm Why do you blame Kadavul for this Arjuna ... Everything has a reason, nothing happens without a reason ... It is our attitude

Words from Gita: Wise men do not lament over the dead nor the living

 
At October 17, 2005 3:18 PM, Blogger viji said...

heart-wrenching post.
Ur aunt's good wishes will always go wth u :)

 
At October 17, 2005 3:34 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Ramya - romba romba thanks for pointing out my mistakes :)..I shall correct it immediately..thanks :)

 
At October 17, 2005 3:35 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Subha - romba thanks for coming in and letting know ur views :)..As viji pointed out in her comment - there are still some ppl mainly women who behave like this..especially in srilanka!

 
At October 17, 2005 3:36 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

saravana - dude - this is a story mate :))

 
At October 17, 2005 3:37 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

viji - thanks a lot :)

ho now wait!! Are there 2 vijis in here :))..I thought the previous viji was u! :).. I shuld visit her blog as well then :)..

 
At October 17, 2005 4:44 PM, Blogger sathyus said...

hmm..deep thots indeed.... i have aunts who are like that ..shd frankly say that this parctise is dying out big time esp amongst the educated community... and you cna laways adopt kids rite? why the insistance on just having kids that are your own(granted thats a great feeling but then love is finally meant to be shared rite?)

 
At October 17, 2005 6:12 PM, Anonymous Raju said...

One of the best posts I read in the recent times.. brought tears to the eyes.

I was hoping for a happy ending but you left us to imagine the climax. I would any time prefer her to be alive.

Oru penn eppadiyavadhu innoru murai thaayagalam.. Aanal thaayilladha kuzhandhai.. romba paavam..

 
At October 17, 2005 8:04 PM, Blogger Ambi said...

Thought provoking story but the climax could have been better -

 
At October 17, 2005 8:25 PM, Blogger Ganesh said...

Arjun
Very moving story.
But there are other ways
couples can adopt.
I know many couples who have adopted and are happy.

 
At October 17, 2005 9:06 PM, Blogger Balaji S Rajan said...

I could not read the story because of Font problem. Could you suggest something.

 
At October 17, 2005 9:32 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

sathya - yes I agree with u - we can always adopt kids but I am not sure about how others wuld luv them as they do to their own children..

 
At October 17, 2005 9:32 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

raju - thanks a lot boss! Very inspirational comment :) - thanks :)

 
At October 17, 2005 9:33 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

ambi - thanks :) - but my whole story was based on this climax only :) - something similar to director bala's story narration style.

 
At October 17, 2005 9:34 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

ganesh - thanks buddy :)

 
At October 17, 2005 9:34 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

balaji - oops I have no idea about this :( - do u read other sites such as dinamani.com? If u can read that - then u must be able to read this - btw r u using IE?

 
At October 18, 2005 4:39 AM, Blogger RËÅGÂÑ™ said...

If only you would have written it in English too, then I would be one of those who'd enjoy the story.

 
At October 18, 2005 4:45 AM, Blogger ranjit kalidasan said...

அர்ஜுன், மிக சிறந்த முயற்சி...தொடர்ந்து எழுத என் வாழ்த்துக்கள்.

 
At October 18, 2005 5:40 AM, Blogger Viji said...

Parvati- I agree that there are women/men who choose not to have children... But, it's quite uncommon to meet a person like that, here.(At least I haven't come across such a woman/man) For the majority of the populace, getting married and having kids is as natural a process as breathing. That's why all of us generalized. (Not because we didn't think of the options you talked about)

"And why do we want only our own children? Only because we are not broad minded or largehearted enough to look on orphans as our own; we need a superior blood, known family tree, and what is not our own flesh and blood will not evoke the same love and affection."
-Very powerful, objective and thought provoking lines, which have stirred a deep chord in me. I’m really touched to see such a selfless soul. Please accept my humble pranams!

 
At October 18, 2005 7:52 AM, Blogger Sriram C S said...

@Arjuna - Well written story, nicely laid out plot. And best of all open ended conclusion!!

 
At October 18, 2005 8:08 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

reagan - sorry boss - I didnt know u culdnt read tamil :( - maybe I shuld have put the tanglish one in my comment :(

 
At October 18, 2005 8:09 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

ranjit - thanks a lot for ur compliments - sure wuld come up with another heart breaker :)

 
At October 18, 2005 8:12 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Viji - I concur with ur thoughts.

Interesting, I have got a new topic out of ur comment - "whether marriage is essential in the first place?" - I shall write on it soon :)

 
At October 18, 2005 8:16 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

sriram c.s - :) - thanks boss to come out and reply :) - cu soon in full form :)

 
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At October 18, 2005 8:18 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Viji and Parvati - I guess its just an initial hesitation and sense of unconfidence in them that prevents them to adopt children. Once they are able to overcome that - and adopt a kid and live with this kid for some years - definitely attachment peeks in! Its just a matter of time - so making the decision and the first move is the only obstacle for not adopting a kid!

As I said the main obstacle is that these ppl are not sure whether they wuld luv these kids as their own - which they wuld surely do after a period of time! Bondage doesnt happen all of a sudden isnt it :)

 
At October 18, 2005 8:59 AM, Blogger mysorean said...

I seriously wish I was able to understand this post!

 
At October 18, 2005 9:07 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Adi - ok I guess I will post the tanglish in the comment now for u guys :)

 
At October 18, 2005 9:16 AM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

thaaymai - oru siriya kadhai.

indru,
idam: vijaya maruthuvamanai.

"raam, unga manaivi romba serious-a irukkiraanga! kulanthaiyaa, manaiviyaa - neenga decide pannikunga!" endraar doctor.

andru:

aval peyar vasanthi.thirumanam aagi 7 varudangakaL aagina. avalidam ellaam irunthathu. onraith thavira. athu kuzhanthai! aval oru maladi! Aam, ithu thaan samugam avalukku kodutha pattam! than kanavanaith thavira, veru yaarum avalin nilamaiyai purinthu kollavillai. iththanai varudanghalil aval adaintha vethanaikaL pala. kuzhanthai illai enra kaaranathaal samuthayaam avalai uthaasina paduthiyathu. than kanavanin thanghai thirumanaththil, aval maamiyaar avalai manameedaiyil nirka vendaam endru kuriyathu, than sontha sagothariyin valaikaappukku avalai varavendaam endru kuriyathu ena pala vagaiyaal samuthayaam avalin ithayaththai kilithathu. en endraal aval raasi illaathavalaam! itharkellaam avalin ore pathil, kanavanukku theriyaamal pala iravugalil aval vidum kaneer.

iraivan nallavan! vasanthi karuvurraal! iththanai varudanghalaga avalai avamaana paduththiya samuthaayam ippothu than thalaiyil avalaith thookki vaiththu aadiyathu! aval karuvutra antha 9 maathangkal avalin vaazhvin migavum santhoshamaana tharunangkal. thaaymaiyin ovoru valiyum avalukku inbamaaga irunthathu.

indru,
idam: vijaya maruthuvamanai.

"doctor, enakku en manaivi thaan romba mukkiyam! enakku en kuzhanthai vendaam doctor! please eppadiyaavathu avalai kaappaathidungga doctor!" endru valiyaal thudithu kondirukkum vasanthiyai operation theatre-kku kondu senravaare katharinaan raam.

"raam, we will try our best. atharku mel kadavul kaiyil thaan irukku. Please sit down raam!" endru koorikonde operation theater-kul nulainthaar doctor.

"doctor, enakku en kulanthai thaan mukkiyam. kulanthai illaama naan intha samuthayathaal thinam thinam saavatharku pathilaaga, naan ore oru murai kulanthai petru, naanum oru thaai endra perumithaththil iranthiduven doctor. please en kulanthaiyai eppadiyaavathu kaappaathidungga doctor" endraaL vasanthi kaniirudan. doctor, vasanthiyin kankalai, orumurai paarththaar. avalin kaniirukku vidai theriyaathavaaree, aval karangkalai piditha padiye doctor ulle sella operation theater kathavugal muudina.

iraivan kodiyavan!

 
At October 18, 2005 9:20 AM, Blogger Parvati said...

Viji, how is it that I know so many couples who are DINKS (Double Income No KidS) and you know none?

I think the bottomline is that people do what they want, if they can, I suppose.

Actually I had digressed from the subject of Arjuna's post. It speaks about a woman who wanted to have children desperately and couldnt have. Besides the immense pain she feels because of this lack of a child of her own in her life, she also has to feel the pain of rejection and humiliation from her near and dear ones, and society who should have been the pillars of support to her. Pity from them would have been bad enough, but humiliation would have been the last straw to her misery. This must have increased her suffering tenfold.

Adopting would not have addressed her problem because it would have created a fresh set of problems both for the parents and the child itself because of the way the particular section of middle class society is, and also because she wanted to have a child OF HER OWN.

I think in this case, instead of the lady living her total life full of emptiness, deep sorrow and untold pain, she should shake off the dust, accept things which cannot be changed, and see what else life has to offer by way of compensation. In this her husband and her family should be very involved; in teaching her to take up some interesting occupation, preferably outside the house, psychologically to prepare her to confront the outside world and its millions of interesting elements, which have nothing at all to do with children or no children, or unwarranted insults from cruel relatives and neighbours, or anything at all that distresses her.

She HAS TO do this - otherwise, not only would fate have conspired against her by not giving her children, not only would society have deliberately but unconsciously added tonnes to her suffering, but she herself would end up the guilty party for not lifting a finger to alleviate her own pain,- she has to fight against fate, against all her torment, by simply leading a contented, peaceful, well-involved, interesting life of self-respect and dignity, if not filled with the immense happiness that a child would have probably brought. She shouldn't sit in a dark place inside herself and suffer in silence ever.

And in this the husband who is by and large very kind and supportive, should take a very active role and push the woman into some activity or the other. His involvement should be very positive, and not just like the Silent Detached Purusha, watching with a benevolent gaze the disturbing drama of Prakriti. A deep compassion, accompanied by positive action, would truly help.

And in the process, when she recovers over a period of time, they can think about adoption.

Arjuna: I think with adopting kids, the major fear could be not that "Maybe we parents cannot love the kid", but that the kid might not love us, and will always be a stranger to the family. And nowadays with psychologists and sociologists insisting that an adopted child should definitely be told about its parentage at the right time, the fear might always be there.

But as you say, all these things are only starting problems, and in life people who want to adopt, do so, and life goes on...

 
At October 18, 2005 9:38 AM, Blogger mysorean said...

Arjuna:
Take a bow! This is one of the best stories I have read in recent times. Touching! And thanks for not concluding. This one deserves to go into a blog which you could start titled "The Best of Arjuna".

Tears in my eyes, prevent me from typing anything more. The story touches my heart.

Keep writing Arjuna! And please try to post a version in English [not tanglish] for my sake atleast. It took me a good 20 minutes to read this and understand fully.

 
At October 18, 2005 1:30 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Parvathi - that seems to be a valid point too :)..the film kannathil muthamital depicts the emotions of an adopted kid very well :)

 
At October 18, 2005 1:31 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

Adi - thanks a lot buddy :) - sure wuld definitely write the english versions for ur sake :) - thanks once again :) - I am overwhelmed by ur reply :)

 
At October 19, 2005 2:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the only blog which has left me sobbing. Very touching and disturbing happenings. Hope realisation dawns on humanity...

 
At October 19, 2005 3:20 PM, Blogger Arjuna_Speaks said...

anon - thanks a lot :) - it wuld have been great if u had put ur name :)

 

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